An aquaintance of ours (who shall be called Turdy Minghole) moved to London and became involved with Genesis P. Orridges' Temple records, or so he told us. I struck up a deal with him which was "You record something and I will put it out." In February I got everything together for a couple of days recording done by Gary Burroughs. WKDN at this time was Paul Moller - guitar, vocals, Mr. Rudeforth - radio, voice, Jonathan/Cess - home-made elecronic things, voice and Steve McDermott - voice. Steve left just before the first session however. I never wanted to sing and didn't think that I could sing but around this time I started to write songs again and the only way they were going to get played was if I sang 'em myself so I worked on singing whilst playing guitar as a matter of necessity. We did the recordings and mixed selected items for release only to be let down by Turdy, the turd. Everything wasn't ship-shape on his boat. Things were changing around this time and became about 50/50 structured/improvised. In September we hooked up with Mike - bass and (another) Ian -Drums and had a few rehearsals in Sept./Oct. but it was going nowhere except down the pan. Somebody pulled the chain, it was probably me. During the Riverside sessions I played a lovely Gibson Les Paul Gold-Top but had to sell it in early 1986 and was relying on borrowed instruments, my sax was stolen and the clarinet broke. Towards the end of 1987 I became increasingly interested in playing acoustically as it seemed easier than getting rehearsal rooms and recalcitrant musicians together so I got a cheap Yamaha acoustic guitar from a catalog (amazingly enough I've still got it and it is the guitar I used on the 2008 stuff until Swine), hooked-up with Trevor Simpson and off we jolly-well-went again.